Home > German > All German Products > German Fieldgear > Ammunition Pouches >

MP44 Pouches Type IIC
MP44 Pouches Type IIC


 
Price: $199.99

Product Code: GGPMP44 TYPE IIC
Qty:

Description
 

Correct webbing & hardware

Tan "Pressstoff" flap sides

Woven buttonholes like originals


The "Type II" MP44 pouches are the most widely recognized variant. Production appears to have begun sometime in 1944 and continued until the end of the War. These are characterized by tan fabric with the woven red lines. Numerous manufacturing variations of straps, closures and reinforcements exist.

ATF's Type II's are made using 100% linen canvas, with woven red stripes woven. We had the material made in Belgium, copied from an original sample.

Our Type "IIC" features gray web closures with woven buttonholes and "LUX" tips, tan "Pressstoff" box sides for the flaps, and the most obvious feature- leather bottoms.


These have had the leather bottoms treated 3 times with
Neetsfoot oil, and been worn to two events,
one raining and very muddy.
The leather will darken with use and exposure,
and the tan linen is a magnet for dirt and stains.


Leather note: The leather parts- the bottoms of the cells and the flaps on the tool & loader pouches, are made from several different hides. This leather is undyed, natural color. The color may vary slightly from piece to piece, but this is absolutely typical of originals. Therefore, the leather reinforcements of the right & left pouch may not be 100% perfect matches. (Yes, some people get very upset about such things.) So, if this is a problem for you, don't buy them. The leather is light tan when new- it will darken with use- sunlight, age and getting wet will darken them naturally or you can help them along with mink oil, Neetsfoot oil, Sno-seal or a similar product. One coat of oil will darken them substantially.

The flap sides are "Presstoff"- a mix of pigskin, split leather and compressed paper we make here. It's a major pain to make- it will eventually start to separate and look crappy just like the real material. Finally, all are assembled using 100% linen or cotton thread. The double-wire snaps (like Pryms) are "sterile" meaning they are unmarked.
All pouches have been checked and test-fitted with 6 real MP44 magazines.

Issue: No style of MP44 pouch is specific to any particular service or unit. By 1944, such luxuries were long gone. Many troops only received one pouch or mis-matched pairs. Original reports indicate that there was always an acute shortage of pouches (and magazines) so troops were lucky to get any at all.

Sold only in Pairs.

Notes

1. Price: These were astronomically expensive to get made. Everyone wants the tan linen canvas with woven red stripes and the correct webbing, etc, etc.. All of these components had to be specially made in the US and Europe. One can't just order a few dozen yards of these things- we paid enough for the raw materials to buy a new car. A nice one. These pouches cost half the price of one original magazine. If you can afford an MP44, these are a drop in the bucket.
Still think they are a rip-of? No problem. There are plenty of $40-50 pouches available elsewhere online. They look like turds, the mags often won't fit in them, but the price is right.

2. Markings: All pouches are marked "adf 44" on the belt loop. We will not mark them with original maker codes, nor are any "sterile".

3. Stripes: All pouches are cut randomly- all have red lines visible on some parts- some are vertical, others horizontal, etc, etc.. Just like originals. If you want a certain number of stripes in specific locations, then you will have to make your own or get out the magic marker...we can't possibly deal with those sorts of requests. If you find us at a show, you're welcome to cull through the pairs we have brought with us.

4. Fit/ Break-in: Several of our Type IIA's were returned as "impossible to use, mags will never fit"...in every case, I got magazines in them no problem on the first try. The flaps on original pouches are meant to close firmly- ours do too. Tight is right. If they are too easy to close, then they are also liable to open just as easily which can result in lost magazines. I have unissued originals and they are even tighter. We have test-fitted every cell of every pouch with real MP44 magazines. Once you take mags in and out of them a few times, they become easier to close- sort of like breaking in a new pair of jeans. Yes, I promise, pinky swear, sugar on top and all that. If you're trying to cram AR15, AK47, BAR, or some other magazines into them, it probably won't be your day.